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May, 2003


   

Our new mascot "Wortef the Desert Turtle."




We got to see an eclipse of the moon, but no UFOs.


 


Wortef got to hang out on Range 6 most of the time.  Rob was on the shotgun range this trip.

   

Left picture taken May 2002.  Right picture taken May 2003.  Notice amazing increase in size.
Notice also the change from the trendy Walther P99QA to the sensible S&W revolver.




 

Instructors supervising the "girl on man" steel plate competition.  Instructors demonstrating kneeling position.



Available light picture of Coleman cooler we got from the Yucca Mountain Surplus Sales lot.


Here is some Actual Text from e-mail sent during the May 16-19, 2003 class.

   Here are some observations from the first day of a four day weekend out here.

    The Mossberg 500A, with ghost ring sights, and a short barrel is, in the absence of an "entry" model with a shorter barrel, the "killer app" for the shotgun course.  I know this because 1) I took the course with a similar yet heavier shotgun, and 2) Rob seems to be having a good time.

    The revolver is the equivalent "killer app" for defensive handgun.  While everybody else is tapping and racking and flipping, the revolver shooter just reloads and continues firing back at the forces of evil (as depicted on those gray targets) and at Ron, who is bound to appear soon.

    [Note:  "Ron" is familiar to Front Sight students.  During simulations, realistic targets are used.  These targets have pictures of people who are either a threat or not a threat, depending on what they have in their hands.  One of the pictures shows a person with a name tag and the name tag says, you guessed it, "Ron."]

    There are old wives tales about double action triggers being too slow for this or that class.  This is baloney.

    Having the only revolver at Front Sight (as far as I know) has been a lot of fun so far.  When a young woman whose boyfriend has given her a Robar Glock 23 to shoot looks at your Jet-Loaders and says they look "cool," the day is complete.

    Here are some tips for revolver shooting at Front Sight.  Get Jet-Loaders.  If you don't know what these are, find out.  Get some speedloader pouch things that Velcro around your belt and put two of those (for a total of four speedloaders) on your support side suspender strap!  Here's the trick:  law enforcement Glock shooters who work in the frozen white north often carry their mag pouches horizontal just to the firing  side of their belt buckle with the base pads (the pouch openings) facing to the support side.  This way, they can reach into an opened heavy coat and get the magazines out much easier than if they are vertical and farther back on the belt.

    This is starting to sound like something Chip [a Front Sight "First Family" member] might have written, but I'll continue because this is Useful Information (UI, get it?).

    [The term "UI" is used at Front Sight to represent someone who is "Unconscious of their Incompetence."  The technical term for this condition is "clueless."]

    So you have one regular open top speed loader on the firing side in front of the holster, and another four speed loaders you can get to by reaching across with your firing hand.  You could put these on the firing side suspender strap, but that would interfere, or might interfere with the draw - from close contact to hands together.  The idea is that after you've used a speed loader from the regular holder, you reach across, retrieve one from the horizontal pouch then place that speedloader into the vertical holder - the one you use for quick reloads.

    I invented every bit of this before 1 pm today.  Amazing.

    [Note:  In retrospect, this is not only amazing, and very clever, but also an example of how you improvise and adapt your gear in teh field.  No matter what you planned, no plan survives first contact with the desert environment.]

    I also figured out how to do the drills without dropping ammunition on the ground, although you do have to throw down the speedloaders to make a good impression on the instructors.

    I'm using an S&W Model 64, because the folks at Blade-Tech have not done anything that suggests they know the difference between a K frame Model 64 or 65 and a Model 19-anything (includes 19-7).

    However, the Front Sight Pro Shop has a holster for a Model 19 in stock, and they'll never sell that one because, after all, who would be dumb enough to take the class with a revolver, right?  So, I'm going to try that holster with the Performance Center K-Comp in the morning and if it fits, I'll switch to the K-Comp for the rest of the weekend.  If things go well, I might even shoot the final test with .357 Magnum ammunition!

    On second thought, not even I'm that dumb.  That would hurt.

    That's it for today.
 
   [The coveted Better Late than Never Award goes to Blade-Tech.  After I returned from Front Sight, there was a nice padded envelope from Blade-Tech with the exact correct holster for the K Comp.  Now I need to go get a Model 66 to fit in the longer Model 19 holster.  I wonder if Blade-Tech and Smith and Wesson have some kind of behind the scenes plan to first send the wrong holster, get someone to buy another sort of close to the right size holster, then get the right one, and then have to buy a new gun.  Smart marketing.  Dumb customer.}


...and later...

    [Written aboard a jet airliner in flight...]  In about an hour I should be back at Washington Dulles International Airport after a four day weekend at Front Sight.  Rob was there to help empty the trash out of the car, supervise the loading and unloading of the storage shed (including writing up a concise list of missing items), and to attend a "shotgun" class of some sort on one of the smaller ranges.

    I, on the other hand, almost made history in two separate categories.  First, I did not shoot the hostage in the steel plate competition and stayed in the running until the last round on our range.  Second, I missed getting the DG thing by ONE [deleted] point, but that's ok, because in both cases these feats were attempted with a REVOLVER.

    After getting the right holster,  I was able to shoot the Performance Center gun and the trigger got better with each passing day.  Putting a Performance Center revolver in a Kydex holster is a good news bad news deal.  The good news is that it comes out like RIGHT NOW, which is important with a revolver, because you need that extra time for the trigger PULL.  If you "press" a revolver trigger, you'll be standing there until you pass out from heat stroke before the gun goes off.  The bad news is that the Kydex rubs off some of the Expensive finish from the Performance Center gun, but that's ok, because after four days that's a good indicator that some learning may have taken place.

    A quick technical note.  You can press the trigger on our friend Rudi Waldinger's revolvers, and those guns do go off before you pass out, but only with his ammunition...so it's not the same thing, I guess.  Rob and I agreed that we would like to have Rudi attend a Front Sight class with a stock revolver and beat the pistol shooters and then beat the shotgun winner.  By the way, for the first time this year the pistol guy beat the shotgun guy.  The shotgun LOSER was a Marine, so one of the instructors held his shotgun while he did push ups.  Marines do push ups on gravel.

    Back to the class report.  As you might expect, the malfunction clearance drills were easy with the revolver, but I took the time, and the wear and tear on my shooting hand, to do the revolver reload each time the pistol shooters did anything (Type 1-3, tactical reload, emergency reload, and whatever else they do).  You can do this without dumping all the rounds on the ground each time.  You start with an empty revolver, "point in," then go through the motions of dumping the empties, and then use the speed loader to put the new rounds in the gun.  After that, you just unload and put the rounds in your pocket.  At the end of the exercise you have a bunch of cartridges in your pocket and just have to pick up a smaller number of empty speedloaders from the ground.

    The actual shooting exercises were more difficult with the revolver than with a Glock.  Every trigger pull has to be perfect.  It is harder to shoot a revolver in that setting, but it forces you to concentrate.  I'll bet I can shoot the Glock better now, because the "slack out, press" on the Glock trigger may be even more controlled.  It's a theory at this point, but worth exploring.
   
    When it came time for the malfunction drills part of the skills test, I think I was given some extra time since I was using the revolver.  The maximum time was 7 seconds.  Because these guys don't screw around, one of the instructors had to time me with his watch after the beep had gone off.  I saw him at the Ace Hardware store Monday night and he said I made every reload in less than 5 seconds.  Go get your revolver if you have one and see if you can reload it in 5 seconds.  That's 5 seconds from pointed downrange to reloaded and pointed back at the target.  Thank you, Rudi Waldinger and thanks to the Jet-Loader company.

    I learned some tricks about tactical reloads with the revolver.  Carry a few Bianchi "Speed Strips" tucked away here and there so you can top of two or three rounds each time you fire.  The only time I didn't do this was on the five sequential head shots.  You know what's coming then, and there's no need to reload.

    Other useful info - be careful what kind of open speedloader holder you use on the firing side.  The vest can knock the speedloader out of the holder, even a Blade-Tech holder that was tightened up.  Losing some weight might help, now that I think of it.  Just when you need the speedloader out on the range you reach and it's not there.  It doesn't take too many of those before you come up with another method.  Improvise and adapt.

    Thanks again to Rudi, I knew always to look at the speedloader and the cylinder when loading.  The instructors said to keep looking around.  That's right, but also wrong.  Just as you do when you close your non-dominant eye, you can glance down long enough to see what you're doing with the revolver.

    Attention NRA Instructors in the group - scanning does not "break tunnel vision," but instead forces you to move the tunnel vision in other directions.  I had never heard that before, but it makes sense.

    Now I know there is a certain amount of personal attention parsed out to the individual students at Front Sight.  That's good teaching and good marketing.  With experience, you can almost tell when it's a little beyond what they are expected to do.  I believe, and Rob may back this up, that there was some genuine interest in the revolver during and after the weekend.  I may not take the handgun class again with a revolver, but I would encourage those of you reading this to try it once.  The big benefit is not only having the women students pay more attention to you, although I did enjoy that a lot.  The real benefit is that you'll concentrate on doing things right every time.  I know you should do this all the time, but the revolver forces you to do it...all the time.

    And, as you might expect, it was great fun to have those first two shots go off before anyone else's and be moving and scanning while they were still shooting.  A revolver can beat a pistol on the first two shots every day if you work at it.

    Comments will now be made on the night exercises.  My "new" Performance Center revolver was manufactured in 1996.  I thought the front night sight was a bit dim, but that was not the case when I got to the range Sunday night.  You can see the front sight just fine.  The muzzle flash from the cylinder to forcing cone gap is bright, and the flash from the compensator is bright, but you see the green dot again right away, much sooner than I expected.

    So, what to conclude from all this?

    Conclusion #1.  Taking the defensive handgun with a revolver was different enough that it was like taking the course for the first time.

    Conclusion #2.  You can "game" the class at Front Sight by tricking up a Glock in much the same way an IPSC shooter builds a race gun.  It's good for that class setting, but not good for the street.  If you take a stock gun like a revolver and do your best with that, it's a transferable skill.

    Conclusion #3.  I thought about taking a class with a 1911 next time, because that would be different, but now I'm thinking about going back with the Performance Center revolver and using different ammunition.  It is, after all, a .357 Magnum.  Hey, it's only 800 rounds in four days, right?  Decisions.  Decisions.

    Conclusion #4.  There should be a maximum of only three conclusions.

    Now, for some final comments.  There is a new official hangout in Pahrump, the Last Chance Saloon.  This place is on Loop Road past the Starboard mobile home sales lot and near the Ace Hardware.  The Last Chance Saloon has some pretty good steaks on the menu, including something called a "Montana Cut."  All I can about that is 1) Yee Hah, and 2) it's a year's worth of the Askins diet if you ask me.

    Askins, not Atkins.  That was intentional.

    We also have a new mascot whose image will appear soon on the www.randymays.com Web site.

Regards,

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